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I wrote a little journal analysis on why Mary Jane is the right girl for Peter, as opposed to Gwen Stacy. Felicia Hardy, etc. but mostly Gwen Stacy because no one seems to be able to let that relationship go. Feel free to check it out if you like! I'd love to hear some of your thoughts.

Spider-Man: Mary Jane Watson or Gwen Stacy?So I was cruising Quora again surfing the web for questions (I tend to do that often, don't I?) when I found one that asked this: Who do you think is the better romantic interest for Spider-Man, Gwen Stacy or Mary Jane Watson? And why?First of all, I'd like to start by saying I find it so funny that all those celebrities who participate in those 'It's Actually Me' interviews have no idea what Quora is... I find myself on there quite often. It's a nice place to ask (or find pre-asked) questions and get answers relatively quickly from real people. Not that people anywhere else are necessarily 'fake'...Anyways, I was pretty satisfied with a lot of the answers they got. It seems a lot of the people who responded had read the comics, as opposed to going off of the material from the films. Because I think all of them, or at least most of them, pointed to Mary Jane.Now, if you're Team Gwen, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. Not yet. I can understand why you're Team Gwen. It's for the same reason I still can't seem to get myself over River Phoenix. It's for the same reason I love the movie Titanic.I've never been a fan of action movies. I've always loved romcoms, emotional films, dramas, things that have the power to make me cry. I wouldn't say it's overly difficult to make me cry, but I like the films I watch to be substantial. To have heart. I never really associated a super hero film with raw emotion and heartache. This is why I've always subconsciously veered away from super heroes and comic books. (Although, looking back, why? They're tough men in tight clothes... you would think I'd be willing to make some sort of effort.)That is, for some reason that I didn't really have, until I decided to go watch the original Spider-Man. How bad could it be, right? It's got Tobey Maguire and James Franco, two actors I really like, and Willem-- wait, Tobey Maguire's a superhero?I've been Team MJ ever since I saw the Raimi trilogy; which is actually pretty funny, because I actually supported MJ and Harry more than MJ and Peter whilst watching those, to be honest. I wasn't a huge fan of how MJ's character was portrayed and made out to act in those films, so I wanted Peter to just focus on being Spider-Man. After moving on to watch the Amazing Spider-Man movies, Spider-Man Homecoming and Far From Home without context of any of the other MCU films (yeah, trying to make sense out of the 'blip' was fun), and then hopping on board to the roller coaster that was the Marvel Cinematic Universe so that I could try to make sense of it all, I not only developed an unanticipated, foreign love for these action-packed superhero flicks, but I also found myself getting wrapped up within the complicated comic world known as the 'multiverse.' And becoming a little obsessed. Now, one thing I discovered early on is that the MCU films vary greatly from the comics on which they are based. Something else I discovered slightly later is that everyone should read these comics... especially those die-hard MCU fans! A lot of them are such know-it-all's... yeah, we'll see who really knows-it-all!Anyways, I found myself quite compelled to Iron Man initially, as most people appear to be, given he is the MCU's golden boy; the Firestar (Warrior Cats) of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. However, I was relieved when my interests reverted back to Spider-Man, my first initial superhero. I thought watching Homecoming again after seeing the original Spider-Man trilogy and the previous MCU films would make me dislike it, due to how foreign and 'technologically advanced' it felt in comparison to the Raimi films.But you know what? What used to bother me about a lack of Mary Jane Watson, Harry Osborn, and especially Uncle Ben in the MCU Spider-Man doesn't really irritate me anymore. Because by this point, I've seen two Spider-Man film adaptations. I've read it in the comics. I don't mind that Oscorps doesn't exist, I don't need to go through that drama again with Norman and Harry Osborn on screen. I don't mind that MJ has a different name and appearance; she's a realistic high schooler, and a name that pays homage to Spidey's original love interest makes me feel better than if she had kept her original identity with the different appearance she has in the film. I don't even mind that Ned Leeds is actually Miles Morales' best friend Ganke Lee, with the name of a man who worked at the Daily Bugle with Peter in the comics. I don't mind that Peter doesn't and will probably never work for J. Jonah Jameson, or that Betty Brant is a blonde as opposed to a woman with a dark brown bob, or that Liz Allen is no longer a blonde and is also the daughter of Vulture. I've even taken a liking to the 'mentor-apprentice' relationship established between Tony Stark and Peter Parker that never really was in the comics, especially if it means he will be 'tossed the baton of leadership' in later films. Truth be told, I have no idea where they intend on going with this franchise's new Spider-Man reboot. Do I think the association with the MCU lessens it in a way? Yes, I do. But is it bad? No, not at all.(Whoa, I've gotten off track. I don't know why I've brought up all this MCU-business anyways, because I'm not coming back to it.)Anyhow, where I was going with this initially is that watching all the MCU films has only caused my initial adoration for Spider-Man to grow. So, like any other obsessed fan-girl, I naturally went back to read the comics. To get my fill of Spidey from another source. This lead me to not only view the character of Peter Parker in a new light, but also the shipping battle between Peter and his two primary love interests, Mary Jane Watson and Gwen Stacy. Although the Raimi trilogy was the most comic-accurate out of all the Spider-Man films, the MCU Spider-Man was the most... 'Peter Parker-accurate,' if that makes sense. I realized while I was reading them that I was feeling and seeing Tom Holland's Peter Parker, but in the stories presented (and partially presented) in the Sam Raimi trilogy and the ASM saga.Another thing I also realized is that, even after all of this, my stance on which girl - excluding Felicia Hardy, Betty Brant, Silk, etc. - is the soulmate for Spidey has also still not changed.So, coming back to the initial question: the better romantic interest for Spider-Man is Mary Jane Watson. Hands down. For starters, I think her character is actually really interesting, and her dynamic opposite Peter is much different from any other comic hero love interest I’ve seen before. Everything about Peter’s life, apart from being Spider-Man, was ordinary. Now, this isn’t necessarily a bad thing; on the contrary, it’s what makes Spider-Man so appealing to such a widespread audience. But MJ brought spice, creativity, and intrigue into that life. She was like a breath of fresh air welcoming itself into the everyday common life of this wallflower teenager. I think it’s really sweet and special that Peter had no initial desire to ever even meet MJ prior to being set up with her by his aunt, nor was she ever intended to be his main love interest (rather, she was merely established as a running joke that Peter couldn’t meet girls on his own). Yet when he ultimately did meet her, he found himself immediately infatuated with her. He was taken aback that this was the girl he had so deliberately avoided crossing paths with for so long. And as Peter fell deeper and deeper in love with her, so did the fans. Despite comic book writers craving a tragic story, we as fans like to see our favorite webslinger happy. And MJ certainly made him happy. (I’m looking at you, Joe Quesada).I think in pairing Peter with MJ, the contrast of their personalities (or, at least, their personalities as they are portrayed on the surface) allowed their relationship to grow and flourish more than Peter would’ve been able to do in his relationship with Gwen. I don’t believe Peter would’ve been able to grow into half the person he is without MJ, and vice versa. Their relationship allows them to discover more about themselves that they may not have ever otherwise discovered without the other’s influence. MJ used to hide behind the facade of this party-girl that avoided reality, yet Peter was the first person she managed to open up to about why she’s like this, and why she’s always ran away from her problems instead of confronting them. For the most part, she even manages to ultimately overcome this and rise above it. MJ falls in love with Peter’s wholeheartedness, sense of responsibility and his ability to face his problems head-on (which she had never been good at as a teenager), while Peter falls in love with her carefree, happy-go-lucky nature, and her ability to let loose and have fun, something Peter wasn’t particularly too familiar with in his youth, either. They bring out the best in each other, in a way that Peter and Gwen’s relationship wouldn’t have been able to do for each other, even if it had been given the opportunity to blossom further. Due to their differences, there is so much depth present within Peter and MJ’s relationship that was never even a potential for Peter and Gwen’s relationship.Some people think Peter and Gwen would be better together because they had more in common… but I think that’s precisely why they wouldn’t be. Personally, if she had lived, I feel the relationship would’ve just gotten boring over time. She was a science major, just like him, went to the same university as him, almost always hung out in the same circle as him, was as academically intelligent as him… I just don’t see Gwen having any sort of interesting life outside of being Peter Parker/(Spider-Man)’s girlfriend, just being the stay-at-home copy of his personality that either agrees with everything he does, never being able to provide him with further insight or advice he wouldn’t be able to think up himself, or constantly brooding over his role as Spider-Man interfering with the relationship that she would like to have with him. Not to say Peter being Spider-Man never put a strain on his and MJ’s relationship, which it did, but MJ, a creative and open-minded individual who knows better than to think the course of life could be planned out like a grocery list, was very empathetic in trying to understand the reasons why he does what he does- and yet, she’s also a strong character who’s never been afraid to share her stance on things, including potentially telling him off from doing something she believes to be wrong or unfair. And Peter, in turn, is always open to hearing her out; always appreciative of her support. Despite this beautiful dynamic, Marvel have already done so much to try and break up Peter and MJ countless times, and are always met with the indignant reactions of fans. So I can’t imagine how quickly they would try to pull that one on Peter and Gwen, a relationship that completely lacks the interest and charm that makes the pairing of Peter and MJ so beloved to so many people.MJ also had a better relationship with his Aunt May than Gwen did anyway, given her Aunt Anna and May were very good friends and were the ones who had set her up with Peter in the first place. Gwen’s father, Capt. Stacy, didn’t like Peter and suspected his alter ego as Spider-Man, which certainly didn’t do their relationship any favors. I also think that Gwen’s family had more money than Peter’s, who was a struggling photographer at the Daily Bugle, which might’ve thrown the relationship out of balance as well (she was more or less spoiled by her father). MJ, on the other hand, was an actress/model who sometimes sought success, and other times was less fortunate. Nobody is more understanding of a lack of funds than a struggling actress. So, she understood that Peter couldn’t always provide for her in the glamorous ways she may be used to on film sets, and she had the willpower and the connections to be able to accommodate with his efforts- all of which she loved him for. The two would struggle to make ends meet, but they’d do it together. Two equals, a union. I somehow feel like having a lack of funds would immensely dampen the mood of someone like Gwen, causing her to feel morose or insecure (which would in turn cause Peter great anxiety), whereas someone like MJ would tell her to look on the bright side.Plus, I just think the whole idea of ‘nerdy bookworm ends up dating hot supermodel’ is actually really cute. Sure, unrealistic, but maybe it isn’t, given she grew up alongside him as practically family. It’s not like he ran off to Hollywood when he was 18 in search for the girl of his dreams who would just immediately oblige to becoming his celebrity wife. Peter loves MJ for who she is, and has never once took her for granted. He knows how lucky he is to have her in his life, and MJ cares for him just as deeply.And anyways, even if you ignore all their chemistry, Peter and MJ simply have more history together. They’ve grown together both physically and mentally, fought crime together, saved the world together, gone through engagements and their marriage together, borne children together, raised those children together (albeit in various alternate universes, but still. That’s only because the writers are shit and want Spidey to stay young, as to not wreck the appeal of the popular superhero to younger audiences. It’s all about money). It’s no competition: Mary Jane Watson is and will always be the girl for Peter, whether the writers (and fans, although most do seem to be in favor of Peter and MJ’s relationship) want to face it or not. That’s not to say Gwen should never have existed. Her life and ultimate demise played a vital role in the development of Peter’s character arc, and further defined comic book history by representing a circumstance where the superhero ultimately failed to save someone- and not just anyone, but the major love interest at the time. But there are no two ways to cut it. She is not the girl for him, even if she may have been intended to be at one point. Clearly, it was never truly meant to be.If Gwen had simply moved away or gone on to date other people after one of the times her relationship with Peter had ended, like Liz Allen or Betty Brant did, this whole shipping debacle wouldn’t even exist. No one pays nearly as close attention to the relationship between Peter and Betty, his first ever ‘girlfriend,’ as they do to Mary Jane and Gwen Stacy, despite the fact that Gwen died very early on in the comics. She’s appeared in more issues as a flashback, or a haunting recollection, or in Marvel’s attempt to revive her as a ‘clone’ in an utterly ridiculous plot line created solely to stir up weird, unnecessary soap-opera drama (but that’s a whole different story) than she has as the living, breathing, normal Gwen we’re referring to. I suppose what I’m trying to say is that nowadays, the Gwen Stacy of Earth 616 is most well-known for dying. And that’s pretty much it. If she hadn’t died, she wouldn’t receive nearly as much attention. In the eyes of hardcore Spidey fans, she would likely not be in the runs as a potential contender fighting for Peter’s affections, just passed up as a temporary teenage fling. But, you see, people are suckers for a sob story. And for mourning over the past. And especially for nostalgia. I’ll admit, I am too. That’s why her recent reiterations as both Spider-Gwen and Gwenpool in the Spider-Verse’s alternate realities exist. And that’s also why people still ship Peter with the Gwen he knew as a teenager who died when he was 19, despite the fact that he hardly knew her for very long at all in relation to the entire duration run of ASM, and also despite the fact that she had even cheated on him with Norman Osborn. Because people, including the writers that write Peter, can never simply let go, move on, and accept what clearly is:Mary Jane Watson is and will always be the better of the two, the best, and the only true romantic love interest for Peter Parker. People just don’t know what to do with a character that should’ve been laid to rest decades ago, which is why Gwen Stacy keeps getting dug back up in all sorts of new shapes and forms. The answer is they should be doing absolutely nothing with her. But, if Marvel can make money off the character by branding her as something/someone completely different (which is exactly what they’re doing) and fish in that audience that wished she lived, as well as some new people while they’re at it? Oh, well then evidently, they should do something. There’s a reason they say no one who’s killed off in comic books is ever truly dead. Comic books already contradict logic to an impeccable degree often enough as it is. It doesn’t take much at all to bring a dead character back if the company really wanted to. And the only reason they’d ever want to just roots back to money. Don’t get me wrong— I do love Gwen Stacy’s character. I even like a couple of those newer variations/adaptations of her character. I love her and Peter’s tragic love story cut short. I love the everlasting toll her death places on him. But is she the girl for him? Was she ever? No.(Also, fun fact, it has been confirmed that MJ was his “first time,” despite Gwen being his first real girlfriend/’true love.’ {What is love, really, when you’re 17/18 years old?} So, there’s that, too. And Gwen was not a virgin, because as previously stated, she had an affair with Norman Osborn whilst in a relationship with Peter. I feel like this gets overlooked way too often by fans who either don’t know about it, are too quick to dismiss it, or who simply really like Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone.)And besides, who could forget MJ’s iconic entrance in ASM #42 with her famous line, “Face it, tiger… you just hit the jackpot!” It’s almost like MJ had known in that exact moment that she was meant to be with Peter, even if we the readers - and the writers, evidently - did not.So yeah. Whoever still doesn’t see that Mary Jane is absolutely the right girl for Peter is either a) in denial, b) prefers blondes, c) is extremely loyal to Stan Lee, or d) just really likes Titanic.